The Daily ICPC Spokane: Day 2 (w/ Jeremy Hockett)

Welcome to the Daily ICPC; This is a limited podcast series from Hey Chaplain, which follows police chaplains Jared Altic and Jeremy Hockett to Spokane, Washington, to attend the annual training seminar of the ICPC, the International Conference of Police Chaplains.  This series will provide a daily, behind the scenes look at the convention, and this is our Day 2 episode. Kansas City BBQ is real BBQ.

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The Daily ICPC Episode MS.2.2, by Hey Chaplain

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Chaplains, Auxiliaries, BBQ, Classes, Conventions, Food, ICPC, Police, Training, Spokane, Washington

Transcript

SPEAKER_00 0:00

So, hey, welcome. I'm Charlie Skoma, the Region 2 Director for ICPC Region 2. I want to welcome you to Washington State and Spokane specifically. This is where we're happy to host the ATS for training this week, and we have chaplains from all over the world coming here to our region. So again, welcome and have a great week.

SPEAKER_02 0:20

Welcome to the Daily ICPC. My name is Jared Altic, and I'm a chaplain with the police department. This is a limited podcast series from Hay Chaplin, which follows police chaplains Jared Altic and Jeremy Hawkett to Spokane, Washington to attend the annual training seminar of the ICPC, the International Conference of Police Chaplains. This series will provide a daily behind-the-scenes look at the convention, and this is our day two episode. Jeremy, how are you doing today? Jared, I'm doing well. How was your day today? It was pretty good. It's pretty good. So since we last talked, we had not yet gone to the mixer. Right. The mixer was last night. You were telling me in years past there's been times where it's kind of like staying around at standing tables and whatever. So there's been banquet style, which is what I've seen. I've seen like a sit-down mixer at tables. Right. So tell me, tell me what we walked into last night.

SPEAKER_01 1:15

So last night, yeah, we opened the doors. They opened the doors and we walked into the room and there were tables everywhere. Well, now we know. You know, we we posed the question ahead of time, and uh now we know what we're looking at. But yeah, they they had they had uh you know trays of food set out, and we got to go through the line and face style. Kind of the face style, yeah, yeah, and then uh sit down and uh begin to eat.

SPEAKER_02 1:37

So I was fairly impressed with what they had to offer. There was you know, corn on the cob, yeah, uh some spicy fried chicken. I'm not sure even what that was exactly, but it was good. Yeah. Uh, and then they had barbecue ribs. They had barbecue ribs. So we're two guys from Kansas that you know, we're close enough to Kansas City. Yes, we know what real barbecue is supposed to taste like. Yes. I thought their attempt was adorable.

SPEAKER_01 2:03

Uh it was it was it was good food. Well, you know, I walked in, it was like the you know, this somebody said I heard it before I got to the line, there's barbecue ribs up there, and I thought, this far north, really.

SPEAKER_02 2:15

I I I got some, I thought it tasted good. Yeah, yeah. Uh they had some sauces to pick from. Yeah, of course, if they really knew barbecue ribs don't need sauce if you do it right. If you do it right, yeah.

SPEAKER_01 2:26

If you get the rub right, yeah, yeah. Things that we are used to. No, we'll have to invite them to our hometown sometime to have some ride with us.

SPEAKER_02 2:35

Guarandog to you, if the ATS is ever in Kansas City, we're doing barbecue. Yeah. And we're gonna introduce them to real barbecue. There you go. That's right.

SPEAKER_01 2:44

That's right. We'll we'll have to start campaigning for that.

SPEAKER_02 2:47

So the mixer was good though. Yeah, it was good too. Seated at tables, you don't mix around quite as much. But I noticed people as soon as they were done eating, they jumped up.

SPEAKER_01 2:56

Yeah, and there were some getting up and walking around to different tables. And, you know, part of the thing of that is to sit at a table where you don't already know somebody. Yes, right?

SPEAKER_02 3:06

Yes, so and we, you and I were together and we were seated between people I'd never met. Yeah. And so Me as well. Yeah. And so, yeah, there was a chaplain named Amber who said she listened to the show. And I'm like, that's awesome. How do you know me? Yeah, she looked up my picture in the app, and so she knew how to recognize because I was not talking, I was eating. Yeah, and I'm like, usually I have to say something out loud before people go, I recognize you. I know that voice. Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 3:31

And I think I told you that too the first time we met, you know? Yeah. I heard your voice bes before I saw you and uh around the corner there a little over a year ago, it was like, I know that voice, I know who's coming, I don't know what he looks like, but I know he's coming around the corner. So yeah.

SPEAKER_02 3:46

So I thought the mixer was good, especially after, especially after people got done eating. Yeah. And they kind of moved around the room and interacted and all that kind of thing.

SPEAKER_01 3:55

Yeah, and then and then we went up to the uh the hospitality room. Yeah. And uh, I don't know what was different about the you know, the the acoustics in the room were way different. The room was much quieter, and you could actually, you know, it was a little easier to hold a conversation up there, I think.

SPEAKER_02 4:08

Yeah, beautiful top of the hotel view. Spoke in the case. It was great. Yep. Then I went back to the room and edited the show. Okay. And so got everything finished and uploaded uh and got a good night's sleep. Good. Uh had a very early 7 a.m. uh education committee meeting. Yeah. And so so that was which being rested, it's fine. You can have it at 6 a.m. if you wanted to, as long as I'm able to sleep. As long as you get that sleep ahead of time, you betcha.

SPEAKER_01 4:36

Yeah, so tell me about your classes today. So my first class was dealing with chaplains and uh assisting our police officers, our sheriff's deputies, you know, whoever we work with, uh in times of critical incident. And uh one of the things that was really stressed there was the importance of chaplains establishing relationships with our agency personnel before the critical incident happens. You know, that way they're they're not calling out a chaplain and nobody there knows who you are. Very, very good information uh given in that class. One of the things I really like about this is when you go to the different ones and you hear different people, you know, even my agency to your agency, you know, the way we respond is a little different and the people there are a little different. So you get to pick up those little nuances uh, you know, from here and there. And you know, we take back the nuggets and you know, hopefully it makes us better chaplains in our agencies, you know, because the ultimate goal here is to help our people.

SPEAKER_02 5:35

Yeah, excellent. My first class, we it was a class about suicide and suicide prevention. Okay. Taught by a local officer who had had suicidal ideation in the last few years. Wow. And so he's just really maybe a couple years past the worst of it, and an incredible testimony, incredible. I mean, he he gave a great presentation. I've seen a lot of people who are giving presentations just a very short time after a trauma. And sometimes it's, you know, they can tell a great story, but they don't always have a lot else to offer. Right. This guy was fantastic. He really did a wonderful job. And I thought that was excellent. And then I had back-to-back classes, an enrichment class that I took as a student, and then a basics class that I took as a monitor. Okay. And they were basically on the same subject on crime scene protocols, being called out on scene, that kind of a thing. Very similar and very interesting to hear two different uh instructors teach it at two different levels back to back. Yeah. And so that was that was really interesting.

SPEAKER_01 6:36

Yeah. My my second and third class were actually like a part A and part B. So one was right before lunch and the other one was right after. Uh, we had this this guy come in and he was talking about relational wisdom and how all of our relationships are are built on, you know, trust and how to build that with people. And I I'll tell you what, Jared, I've got probably four or five, six pages of notes that I took with well while this guy was talking, and uh he had some good handouts to give us. And this is one of those things that that you just kind of sit there and you you absorb what you can, and you go back and look at it again later and try to pick the pieces back up. And and and and I think I talked in our preview show, you know, sometimes you go and you find those things that you want to take home and you want to implement. Yeah, and this is one of those things that I am definitely gonna dig into deeper when I have a little more time to look into it and uh see what we can bring, you know, back to the agency and uh use it to help people out.

SPEAKER_02 7:33

I like all of the classes that I signed up for. Uh it's just 14 different teaching sessions. So 14 classes if you take everything. Uh-huh. And there's a few though that I really am anticipating later this week. And so, I mean, they're all good, but but there's a couple that I'm really looking forward to.

SPEAKER_01 7:49

I I kind of had the same thing. And uh, I told my wife when I talked to her last night, I said, you know, I can tell there was a there was a theme in my mind when I picked my classes, yeah, because I have several that are that are themed kind of the same.

SPEAKER_02 8:01

Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 8:02

And that was about the time that I had been asked to put on a class in my agency, and they all kind of they all kind of line up with what I was thinking at the time.

SPEAKER_02 8:10

Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 8:11

Uh, but it'll be great.

SPEAKER_02 8:12

Yeah, it'll be great. So this afternoon, uh, we had uh business meetings and a plenary session, uh, which means that we all got together, but not all of us, because the auxiliary group was having their own meeting, and Charlie Wharton from Maryland invited me to come help him speak as kind of a chaplain panel to these chaplain wives. And some of these wives are, you know, it's the first time they've ever been to an ATS, and others have been coming for 30 years. Yeah. Right. And so it's an interesting mix. And I loved that. We didn't have a large group, but we sat around a large table and all shoulder to shoulder, kind of all squeezed in at one table. And and Charlie and I talked about the needs that chaplains have and how our wives can help us better and how we can help them better, and kind of that relate that marital relationship between a chaplain and his wife. And it was wonderful. Yeah, it was they it was a lovely group. I it what it did, it made me really, really, really want to bring my wife to future ATSs. And I want to like go around and tell other chaplains, are you bringing your wife? Are you bringing your wife? You know, I want to have them all bring their spouse to the next ATS.

SPEAKER_01 9:27

Yeah. And I hope my wife comes back with me next year. Because she has before. She has before. She came with me my very first time, and then uh she was with me again last year. She participated in the auxiliary both times. Yeah. She even mentioned to me, you know, last year that Charlie came and talked to their group as well. Yeah. And uh she really enjoyed you know what he had to say.

SPEAKER_02 9:47

So while I was doing that with the auxiliaries, you went to the plenary session.

SPEAKER_01 9:50

I did go to the plenary session. We heard from retired deputy chief Thomas Lemmer from the Chicago Police Department. He was stressing faith in law enforcement. And he started his presentation off by telling us when somebody takes the office of president of the United States, they take an oath. And that oath always ends with so help me God. And I'm sure your agency is the same as mine. When our officers are our deputies, take the oath of office, take that oath that they're going to uh work in the community. It ends with, so help me God. Yeah. You know, who are we really depending on here? You know, it's it's it's not the it's not man, it's God.

SPEAKER_02 10:34

Yeah. And it's really good. Yeah, he brings a lot to the table. Maybe I'll have him on the show sometime in the future. And so that'll be fun. That'd be something to look forward to. Yeah. So let's look forward to tomorrow. Okay. Uh, what do we have? I mean, later tonight, I mean, here in just a few minutes, we're gonna go to a regional meeting. So all the chaplains from goodness, is it Texas, Oklahoma, Kansas, Missouri, Arkansas, and Louisiana. Louisiana, I think. I think. Yep, yep. Louisiana's part of us. Pretty sure that's our region. I believe I believe you're right.

unknown 11:06

Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 11:06

And so we'll have a meeting here in just a few minutes, and then tomorrow we've got quite a bit on our plate. We've got more classes.

SPEAKER_01 11:13

Yeah, more classes tomorrow. And then tomorrow we have the uh the annual memorial service that we hold.

SPEAKER_02 11:20

Yeah, that's I I am looking forward to it in a sense. Yeah. Uh, it's a very powerful service. It would be meaningful to anybody who sat through that service. But I have two officers. I have a deputy and uh an officer from our police department that were murdered last year. And and that's I am I'm looking forward to it, but I'm also kind of dreading hearing their names, seeing that that that's well you were very you were very present in the moment when those events took place in your agencies, in your community.

SPEAKER_01 11:51

I know you participated in in uh the services in different fashions uh for both of them. So yeah, uh I can definitely see why you know there would be that that hesitation there from that.

SPEAKER_02 12:02

Yeah, there's a there's an uncomfortable anticipation. Yep. And so so and I'm like I said, I'm eager to honor both of them and their memory and and and everyone else who lost their life in the last year. Is it run May to May? I'm is that the cutoff? It's not the calendar year.

SPEAKER_01 12:18

It's not a calendar year, no.

SPEAKER_02 12:20

It's it's from Yeah, like maybe from like police officer Memorial Day. I'm guessing. It seems like the kind of thing we should have looked up before we started recording, right? Yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_01 12:33

You gotta find somebody above my pay grade to answer that question properly, because I don't know.

SPEAKER_02 12:38

That's right, that's right. Well, that'll be uh and hopefully right after that memorial service, we'll have a chance to record again. Okay. And so we'll we'll be able to catch us fresh off of those emotions, those very strong emotions, um, uh when we record day three.

SPEAKER_01 12:53

Yeah, it always is.

SPEAKER_02 12:54

So that'll be that'll be great. Looking forward to that. And I'm glad that everybody's getting a chance to get a little glimpse into what we're doing here at ICPC. Yeah. That's that's uh it's a meaningful thing, not just to do the training, but to make the connections. Exactly. And to to rebuild connections that you've lost because you live on the opposite sides of the country from people, and also to you know make new connections and new friendships and that kind of thing. I that's we need that as human beings. We do we definitely need that as chaplains. We do, that's for sure. All right. Well, from Spokane, Washington, this is Jared Altic with Jeremy Hockett, and this was the daily ICPC from Hey Chaplin. And as always, let's pray for peace in our cities.

SPEAKER_01 13:42

Yeah, you know.