The Daily ICPC Spokane: Day 5 (w/ Jeremy Hockett and Dru Ashwell)

Welcome to the Daily ICPC; This is a limited podcast series from Hey Chaplain, which follows police chaplains Jared Altic and Jeremy Hockett to Spokane, Washington, to attend the annual training seminar of the ICPC, the International Conference of Police Chaplains.  This series will provide a daily, behind the scenes look at the convention, and this is our Day 5 episode.  Our Uber driver was NOT a serial killer.

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The Daily ICPC Episode MS.2.5, by Hey Chaplain

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Chaplains, Airports, Banquet, Classes, Conventions, Humor, ICPC, Police, Training, Uber, Spokane, Iowa, Washington

Transcript

SPEAKER_01 0:00

Hi, this is Chaplain Deborah Grow, and I'm with the Goughstown, New Hampshire Police Department and the United States Secret Service Chaplain C and you're listening to Hay Chaplin. Welcome to the Daily ICPC. This is a limited podcast series from Hey Chaplin, which follows police chaplains Jared Altic and Jeremy Hockett to Spokane, Washington to attend the annual training seminar of the ICPC, the International Conference of Police Chaplains. This series will provide a daily behind-the-scenes look at the convention, and this is our day five episode.

SPEAKER_02 0:38

Jeremy, how are you doing after a full week at the convention? Jared, it's been a really good week. Such a great time, just running into people I've known for several years now, uh making some new friends, and of course the class content this year was I mean it's always good, but yeah, I had a couple that I really enjoyed this year.

SPEAKER_01 0:57

So that's fantastic. So last night after we recorded, we went to the banquet. And so everybody got dressed up and we went to the banquet. Uh, how was it for you?

SPEAKER_02 1:08

The banquet was good. We were probably one of the last ones to get into the room. Yes. And so uh, you know, a lot of the tables were already filled up. Yeah, we were way over stage left. Yeah, we were. Yes, we were. But uh the food was excellent. Uh we sat down at a table with some really great folks and we had some times of uh good conversation. Yeah, and uh we just had had a good time. Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 1:32

Now all banquets are slow, and I think I have a solution. Okay, so so these banquets, you know, you get you bring people up and give them awards, you have speakers and prayers and all this stuff. And what where I think the weak point is, is getting the logistics of getting people up to the what do you call it, dais or stage or platform. Platform, yeah. Yeah, so we're getting people up to the platform, up to the podium to speak. And so what we need to do, even though this is a conference for police chaplains, we need to invite firefighters and have have like a team of firefighters. And as soon as dear brother so-and-so needs to come up to the platform, firefighter grabs them from their seat, throws them over their shoulder, runs them up to the stage, deposits them there. I I think that would I think it would cut the total length of the banquet down by like 40%.

SPEAKER_02 2:27

Jared, you may be onto something there. You may be on to something there. See, man, and and I I I don't think we'd have any shortage of volunteers. You know? If if you went back to your community and you posed this idea, I I think yeah.

SPEAKER_01 2:41

We could be shuttling people back and forth, uh, young and old, big and small, everybody just back and forth on the shoulders of firefighters. I think I think that would solve it.

SPEAKER_02 2:50

Oh, that would add a whole new dimension to our uh to our conference and our and our banquet.

SPEAKER_01 2:56

I would I would worry people would treat it like a NASCAR race where they're kind of waiting for the crash. And so I don't we probably don't want to encourage that. That's that's fair. That's fair. Okay, okay. Well, so we had to get up this morning and pack and check out of our rooms and all that kind of thing. Everything go okay for you? Yeah, no, no problems there at all. Yeah, Drew, Drew Ashwell and I, we were up early and we were getting things squared away and checked out of our room and and finding a place to to stash our luggage and all that kind of thing. And so it seemed to go pretty well. Then I had two classes this morning. Okay. Both of them are really good. The first one I really want to make note of, I moderated it, and so I was able to introduce Charlie Wharton. Okay. And I love Charlie. Charlie's a great guy, fantastic. And he was teaching a class basically on like health and that kind of thing. I think specifically it was the health hurdles of the job. And it started out like I thought it would, talking about stress and you know, heart problems and blood pressure and all that kind of stuff like that. But as he went, he was sprinkling in some scripture here and there, and really talking about like appreciation and gratitude and stuff like that. That he I don't know if he ever even used those words, but that is definitely what came through. And I was like really moved by it. I thought this was this is just a fantastic. What a great way to end the week. Yeah, yes, yes, and a good thing to take home to other chaplains because we're always so busy taking care of people. Yeah, we don't take care of ourselves. That happens a lot.

SPEAKER_02 4:32

Yeah. So tell me about your classes. So I had another two-part class. This one was just phenomenal. Again, this is this is one of those classes that you jump in, you take. Uh, and and he told us from the outset, I normally spend X number of hours teaching this course. He goes, I'm not going to cram it all down your throat at once, but I will be selective through the course and what I give you. And and the nuggets he gave, uh, man, I'm just I'm ready to go home and uh find this company online and uh dig in and get some more good stuff because I really feel that this is some stuff I can bring back to my agency. So in what area was this class? Yeah, so the name of the class was Turning Conflict into Opportunity. Okay. And uh a lot of a lot of things, you know, dealing with uh helping people resolve issues between uh two other parties.

SPEAKER_01 5:27

It sounds like one of those navigating difficult people type of classes.

SPEAKER_02 5:31

Yeah, I like but not not necessarily just difficult people, but since we're all humans and we have different personalities, we're gonna have clashes. Is there another kind of human? I'm not sure. We were all difficult. Yeah, yeah. You're you are exactly right. And and honestly, that was part of his presentation too was you know, looking inward and making sure where we we are where we need to be. Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 5:55

Great class. So, what was it like hosting a podcast while doing a convention at the same time?

SPEAKER_02 6:02

Jared, I have had such a good time this week helping you with this. Um, I I'm so glad that you asked me to do this. Uh, when you first asked me, I was like, you know, I've never done anything like that before. And then I kind of thought about it and it really started to grow on me. And now, honestly, I'm just gonna be offended if you don't ask me to do it again sometime. So, you know. Well, wait a second, Ward said the same thing.

SPEAKER_01 6:24

Well, you know, we may have a little conflict resolution between me and Ward, didn't you? Make you guys arm wrestle it out. Yeah, yeah. Now it I really enjoyed having you on the show. Uh, we will do another episode here in a week or two. Okay. And so there'll be a follow-up episode that'll run in August. Okay. And so we'll we'll have you back on again to kind of bring and bring a conclusion to to this. But you did a great job. And it's it's great, it's great podcasting with preachers because because they're used to a microphone, yeah. They they know how to speak, they know how to you know really, you know, keep a topic going and that kind of thing. And so it's just it's fantastic. It was it worked really well.

SPEAKER_02 7:07

Well, Jaron, again, I I appreciate the opportunity and I uh really enjoyed doing this with you this week.

SPEAKER_01 7:12

Looking ahead, we've got a closing ceremony here in a few minutes. Yes, and then uh we're grabbing our suitcases and making a break for the airport. We are in the car and to the airport, all right. So then we're gonna travel home. I'll be getting to Denver slightly ahead of you, I think. Yeah. And then each going our own way to Kansas City and to Wichita. And then next year, the ATS, the annual training seminar, is going to be in Iowa.

SPEAKER_02 7:40

Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 7:40

And so it'll be uh near Iowa City, eastern Iowa. Close enough, we can both probably drive there without having to fly. Yeah, yeah. I think I can definitely drive it. I'm hoping, hoping my wife will go. And and honestly, with it being that close to Kansas City, I'm gonna push really hard to recruit not only our chaplains to all go, but to try to maybe get some somebody like our wellness officer or some other individuals that might be future liaisons, yeah, and get them to come up and get educated and trained classes and potentially get a like a liaison credential or something. Absolutely. So try to push for that. It'll be close enough. You know, maybe there'll be a carpool of uh KCK cops going to Iowa. Love to see that. Yeah. So from Spokane, Washington, this is Jared Aldick with Jeremy Hawkett, and this was the daily ICPC from Hay Chaplin. And as always, let's pray for peace in our cities. Amen. Uh pulling up to the airport. Goodbye, Spokane. Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 8:55

Still a little bit of uh little haze in the air from all the smoke from the wildfires we've been hearing about.

SPEAKER_01 9:02

Too bad.

SPEAKER_02 9:03

Like every day we were here, I got an alert on my watch about an air quality warning. Did that bother you at all? It didn't mean it.

SPEAKER_00 9:10

Uh yes, it it I did have a few times where I just felt like it was thicker and kind of caused a cough. Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 9:18

See, but Drew went out walking every morning. So he was actually exercising. Wow. I don't know what was up with that. Yeah, you should have hollered. I should have gone with you. I I would have gone, but I my ankle was bad all week.

SPEAKER_00 9:32

He needed to nurse that and make it allow it to heal.

SPEAKER_02 9:35

Yeah, yeah. I know uh Adam was having problems that night we went to Chili's, too. The smoke it was in the air.

SPEAKER_01 9:43

Yes, he was really happy with. It was almost like an yes, like an asthmatic reaction to it. Yeah. But I mean, Spokane was beautiful. I mean, it's love all the trees.

SPEAKER_02 9:54

Alright, I think I'm gonna have to go around the loop again and come back into here. Turn my rental car in. Ah. Which is fine. I got plenty of time. Well, we don't have to worry about it. We're getting curbside service. Yes, you are. I mean, you got you guys got picked up at the curb, you're getting dropped off at the curb. Where's my Uber app thing? Leave a tip. That's right. That's right. You'll notice we didn't tip when you picked us up. Yeah. At least give me a five stars. Come on. Give a guy a break.

SPEAKER_01 10:25

I heard I heard a guy, an Uber driver, that deliberately would get a bad rating to keep his number, his overall rating down, because he didn't want to get sent by the algorithm on certain trips. Oh, really? And he he could stay closer to home and take the leftovers basically if he kept his rating down. Interesting. I I guess I guess you could game the system that way, but I've never game I've ever played.

SPEAKER_02 10:55

No way.

SPEAKER_01 10:56

It's Uber drivers and podcasters. Five stars if they're remotely adequate. If it's four stars, you basically think they're a serial killer. Yep. Okay. And so four stars mean you hate them. Five stars is it was funny. It was alright. Yeah.

unknown 11:10

Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 11:11

I don't know what kind of psychopath gives somebody three stars or less. Just terrible. You usually don't say you've really made it until you have some angry person that gives you some terrible review. You totally ignore them because they're like just all they're doing is trying to get a response.

SPEAKER_02 11:32

Yeah. I had a service manager one time that said you know you're a good service manager when your name finally arrives on the wall of the bathroom. Don't know I totally agree with that, but well, guys, if it's alright with you, I'm gonna let you out right here. Alright. Jeremy, thank you for the ride.

SPEAKER_01 11:56

Oh, my pleasure, you know.

SPEAKER_02 12:00

Yep, it was uh was a good thing. Good thing to do. All right. Thank you. Appreciate you. Yeah, we'll see you guys uh somewhere down the road. Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 12:10

Yeah. We'll get together. We'll get together. And we'll be talking here in a few weeks online.

SPEAKER_02 12:15

Yeah. Got another meeting coming up. So alrighty. You guys take care. God bless you. Yeah, you too. Godspeed.